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Post by Duelron1001 on Nov 14, 2004 1:20:55 GMT
Clearly we are going to have most of the ships from the orginal FS (look I refuse to add the drone practise ships! No wait we could use them as probes ), anyway what ships do people feel should be included from FS 2? The ships that we are going to alow in are going to be those classed as old in FS 2 which would mean that they are new in FS 1. People please be reasonable about what you ask, eg the Demos will not be included as its a new ship in FS 2, same with most of the destroyers. mr. WHO will have to check them over first to see if they can fit into the time line.
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Post by DatonKallandor on Nov 14, 2004 6:56:07 GMT
I suppose the Shivan Demon is out of question too?
I guess you could include the Herc II as some sort of experimental Fighter, mighty expensive and mighty powerful.
Daton
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Post by Duelron1001 on Nov 14, 2004 7:13:01 GMT
I should of said to what period time we are going to go up to.
This mod will cover between 1 year before the end of the GTA-PVN war all the way through to about 10 years before FS 2, that way we should include beam weapons. Wiht a system simular to SW:Warlords to chose what period you want to play in.
Anyway the Herc 2 is a rather newish fighter, but I supose it might not make it, the Herc 1 was only invented just before the end of the great war. But then again the Herc 1 was still in us by the NTF during FS 2. I'll leave this one for mr. WHO.
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Post by mr. WHO on Nov 14, 2004 9:35:51 GMT
yeah, herc 2 are too new for FS 1 era.
As for shivan SD Demon: it's from FS1, there was at least 2 of them in campaign (SD Eva and second one when you chase Lucifer to Sol).
Ships from FS 2 that was quite old are: GTD Hades- FS1 era ships- origin GT intelligence rebel officers- first terran ship with beam cannons. GTF Loki- that same like Hades-GTI origin- very advance in FS 1 but in FS it was piece of scout junk(quite dangerous only for newbie pilots) GVCv Sobek- it was tested shortly after shivan invasion, one of the first vasudan ships that was refited with beams. We can use it as prototype (version without beams). I'll look for other old ships later.
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Post by mr. WHO on Nov 14, 2004 9:47:38 GMT
I propose this era:
-Terran-vasudan war- from beggining to shivan attack, because there will be a lack of models from this perion we could ask a FS mod team from V-T war project for help, but as you say we should focus on FS cannon ships so we could do this era when rest will be done.
-Great war- from first shivan attack to fall of Lucifer, quite easy task.
- Rebuilding period/GTI Rebbelion/HoL fall/GTVA formed- in this era we could use those models from FS 2 and it's quite interesting era.
-FS2 Era/NTF war/second shivan attack- well if we'll finish the rest and HWFC will be dead like it is now we could start it, but it far far far future.
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Post by Ransom Arceihn on Nov 14, 2004 15:10:56 GMT
As far as the timeline goes, to be honest I don't find the FS1 era very interesting. Maybe the very end (offensive against the Lucifer) but other than that, I just don't think FS1 era ships would be very good for this kind of mod. I think you should focus on the parts of history the games themselves didn't focus on, such as between the Great War and the rise of the NTF, and following the Second Great War.
That said, if it was done right, the FS1 era could be interesting, provided it didn't simply follow directly the events of the game.
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Post by ships on Nov 28, 2004 18:48:29 GMT
Hey, this is my first post. I'm over on relic too, which is where I first saw this.
I just really wanna see my Orions. Those babby's were still bad@$$ even in freespace 2! Either way, they were crap against Shivan ships, but hey were absolutely dominant against Vasudan ships for the most part, Typhons aside.
Really, I want to see either variations of ships (for example, take a Fenris and give it either additional fusion mortars or anti-fighter guns), or a few new ships all together. If you don't want to put entirely new ships in, can we at least see a few variations on the norm? Just to spice things up a bit?
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Post by DaHumie on Nov 28, 2004 18:49:44 GMT
crap, i thought I was logged in. No wonder it was acting a little strange with the name thing...
ignore the name in that last post there.
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Post by Duelron1001 on Nov 29, 2004 1:19:08 GMT
DaHumie - it wouldn't be FS if there were no Orions (and not to mention Rico would not let me not put them in, for that fact any cap ship). As for custom out fits of ships, well thats a very distictive possiably as we are going to cover prity much well all of FS 1 and 2 by the end, periods like the rebuilding period is one such period that a large number of diffrent configerations would appear due to the incluction of beam weapons.
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Post by DaHumie on Nov 29, 2004 1:28:00 GMT
Sounds like a plan. I hadn't really meant customizing the ships personally (that's what it sounded like you were saying), though that might be something interesting. My thought was that you guys could do a little weapon, armor, and engine tweaking to the ships to make them more dedicated. Whatever you guys want to do.
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Post by Duelron1001 on Nov 29, 2004 1:33:05 GMT
customizing the ships personally as far as I can tell is not really possiable at this stage, but rather your latter opion is what I was refering to.
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Post by DaHumie on Nov 29, 2004 1:34:38 GMT
Ah, ok, I wasn't entirely clear then.
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Post by FSFan on Jan 11, 2005 21:46:04 GMT
Well I'd say mostly all the FS1 era ships from the start should be in...
IE: Apollo Angel-class interceptor (Predecessor of Valkrie but with only 2 engines) Leviathan Fenris Science Cruiser Orions Cargos Posidons Arcadias
Need some new ones though since they needed to make mad ships and FAST.
Toss in Medusa, say they had it around but used it on bigger ships with upgraded Furies to be like unguided Tsunamis. Athena was around early too wasn't it?
FS1-FS2 transition:
All FS1 Ships from the end of the great war. Inc the GTI ships: Zeus bomber, Loki fighter That brings it to
Apollo Athena Valkrye Hercules Medusa Ursa Zeus Loki Hades Leviathans Fenris Posideons Orions Arcadias Science Cruisers Turrets
Possibly the Myrmidon and Artemis, the Aeolus for sure since that was a light cruiser and for sure wasn't made in the height of a conflict, placing it in the Mid-transition stages, Pre-NTF; The Triton would be made to help carry supplies after the cut-off of Earth from the rest of us, and the new TAC cargo containers.
Deimos and Hectae aren't around yet, Hades are rare since they were old and illegal tech but could be retrofitted like the Orions to have Terran weaps.
Likewise with the Vasudans,
All the starting fighters: Osirus Seth Anubis Baat-cargo hauler Amun Sobek (was made right after the invasion) Typhons Turrets
FS1-FS2:
The new interceptor The Sehkmet The Hathesput (they had problems with original Typhons adding beam weaponry so they had to make an entirely new chassis for beams) That other Vasudan Cruiser I cant remember its name. Plus, you guys would be the bomb if you gave the GTVN a starbase-type unit.
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Post by Thorshammer on Jan 13, 2005 7:12:49 GMT
Hmmm couldnt we make the base like shipyards? I mean a waarp in unit just minus engines?
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Post by mr. WHO on Jan 13, 2005 16:02:51 GMT
FSFan you forget about vasudan Aten cruiser in FS1 era (it's use in FS2 as convoy escort but not in frontline because it crap)
That second vasudan cruiser is Mentu.
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